hyla meridionalis

[phil]

we lived in malaga, southern spain for a while afew years ago. tree frogs, as well as many other reptiles and amphibians were commonly seen and caught by me and my sons.i was reliably informed that the tree frogs were in fact meridionalis and not arborea. could anyone shed any light on the differences between the two as i have only seen pictures of arborea but they look remarkably similar. chamaeleons were very common and often caught by my sons, but this is in fact the only place where they are at all common any more

[willj]

i think meridionalis either have or lack (can't remember which) a yellow stripe down their flank.

[morbid]

It´s two different species..

Pics of H. meridionalis : images.google.se/images?q=Hyla+meridionalis&hl=sv&btnG=S%C3%B6k+bilder

Pics of H. arborea :images.google.se/images?svnum=10&hl=sv&lr=&q=Hyla+arborea

Both very nics. I would like to get my hands on H. meridionalis..

(Links aren´t clickable, please copy and paste..)

[Killian]

www.ac-nice.fr/etabs/cocteau/notre_college/matieres/SVT/grnouille_b240.JPG

is this a mutation or are meridionalis capable of turning blue? any body breed blue hyla?

[phil]

never saw any blue ones in malaga, but the green colouration was quite variable. some very vivid, others being brown or even slightly grey.

[Pollywog]

I had blue phase arborea for many years but they were not as blue as that. I have seen blue H.chinensis.

[phil]

andrew, are the blue phase naturally occurring or have they been selectively bred over generations?

[Pollywog]

I'm not entirely sure, it was several years ago that I had them, they were CB juveniles when I bought them and have not seen any advertised as blue phase since which is a shame as I would love to get some again in the future.
I also had leucistic arborea & the normal "wild type".

[adamanuran]

I have observed naturally occurring blue phase H. arborea near karlovy vary in czech republic.

[djp1phillips]

Hello, as a French reptile and amphibian 'specialist' I can help you, firstly I don't think arborea occur in that part of Spain, but none the less the huge difference is that arborea have a dark line from their snout running on the flancs and finishing aroung the hind limbs, meridionalis lack this line hence their common english name of the STRIPELESS tree frog,

see these links for some 'new' photos (ones you might not have already seen:
Hyla meridionalis (click 'more photos' for... more photos):
www.reptilia-amphibia.net/en/anures/hyla-mE.html

Hyla meridionalis (click 'more photos' for... more photos):
www.reptilia-amphibia.net/en/anures/hyla-aE.html

Hope that has helped you

Concerning other posts here, the stripeless tree frog can slightly change colour, however this isn't true to the word as they are only capable of changing the shade of their colour, the blue specimen is in actual fact a problem in the specimens genes, this frog doesn't pass this error to it's offspring.
That blue specimen is which may surprise you is not that blue, I have seen amazingly blue stripeless tree frogs.