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Post by Nico on Mar 9, 2009 14:33:00 GMT
Hello, I'm French... and my english too bad ... My enclosures for Sceloporus jarrovii (two pairs) and Podarcis sicula (one pair). JL
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Post by barb1 on Mar 9, 2009 20:39:14 GMT
Wow, what super outdoor vivs. and so well stocked with plants. How did you make them? Have you got other types of lizards?
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Post by Nico on Mar 9, 2009 22:26:12 GMT
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Post by mark68 on Mar 10, 2009 6:41:22 GMT
VERY nice enclosures. Lovely pics too. I keep and breed tangitanus too. Do yours have brown back legs and brown tails ?
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Post by Nico on Mar 10, 2009 11:56:16 GMT
yes, they have
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Post by mark68 on Mar 10, 2009 18:04:55 GMT
That is one way I think you can tell them apart from Timon pater. I keep them too, they have green back legs and tails. Nico, what part of France are you in ?
I will try to take some pics of both species.
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Post by Nico on Mar 10, 2009 20:20:13 GMT
Sorry Mark but I have not understand... You say that my lizards may be T. pater I'm in SW France.
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Post by barb1 on Mar 10, 2009 20:23:08 GMT
Hi Nico,
I love the pics. Some great lizards. All looking very healthy. I like your wooden enclosures. You could set up in business! We don't have anything like that here for sale that I know of. How do you keep the rain off?
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Post by Nico on Mar 10, 2009 20:46:12 GMT
Sceloporus and Podarcis sicula stays in alu enclosure the entire year. Timon in wood enclosure only from april to september. From octobre (?) to march, they are indoor. No protection against rain in wood enclosures... When the rain fall, the lizards are under (sous les tuiles qui servent de cachettes ...) Sorry for my very bad english ...
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Post by barb1 on Mar 10, 2009 22:32:11 GMT
Nico, So do you put something over the mesh, otherwise lizards would be swimming in water? Or is the bottom open into the ground?
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Post by Nico on Mar 11, 2009 10:51:05 GMT
No, no, my lizards do not swim when it is raining... The ground in my region is very sandy and when it is raining, the water infiltrates at once. The bottom of my wood enclosures is fenced in (as the top), especially for not that lizards dig and escape. On the wire netting I put some centimeters of sand and gravel. I use tiles as shelters. Under tiles the ground is always dry, and when it is raining, and also when it is too much warm, the lizards stay below.
Nico
(and one thank you in REVERSO TRANSLATION...) ;D
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Post by mark68 on Mar 11, 2009 11:14:02 GMT
Nico, sorry for the confusion. I keep both T.pater and T.tangitanus. I think your animals ARE tangitanus.
Tangitanus have the brown colour in the tail and back legs and Pater are green in the back legs and tail.
How cold is it at night in the winter where you are ?
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Post by Nico on Mar 11, 2009 12:35:22 GMT
Hello Mark, I understood your answer for T.tangitanus... In winter, in my region, the temperatures can fall at certain nights (but rarely) in - 5 /-6°C but the day if the sun shines, they can go back up(raise ?) rather high. For example on December 23rd, my Sceloporus jarrovii, in one of the aluminum glazed enclosures, were active. The temperature in the enclosure was of 21°C at 13h00. In my garden, I have for several years, palm trees Butia capitata, Agaves américana, Opuntias ficus-indica and Opuntias basilaris brought back by New Mexico who grow in full ground, unprotected wintry. I keep during of numerous years in my glazed aluminum enclosures T.lepidus. The winter they took shielded from the cold with dens which they dug. I stopped because they became again wild and very territorial. In the slightest alert they took refuge in their den. I never saw them, I could not get back the young people who were eaten by the parents. With the experience, I am convinced that big enclosures are not good to manage (correctly ?) and reproduce this very wild sort. Now I raise this sort in my small wooden enclosures and I am totally satisfied by the result.
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Post by morbid on Mar 12, 2009 10:34:20 GMT
Nico: Do you have any "blueprints" for your alu-enclousures? I would really like to know how they are made.. Here is a good link: www.lexilogos.com/english/translation.htm I use it on a French forum, and they seems to understand me there..
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Post by Nico on Mar 12, 2009 12:58:19 GMT
Yes, I had plans, but I would have to look for them. These enclosures were built 10 years ago... Besides, they were built by a professional (manufacturer of porches). The material (profiled aluminium marks TECHNAL) is normally used to make shop windows and shop windows of store and I do not think that a private individual can easily make the same thing because are needed special tools. These enclosures measure 2, 40 m X 1, 20 m and make 1 m of height for the back part. Windows are 8 mm in thickness. And Thank you for the link towards Lexilogos ... For Mark: would have you photos of Timon pater (aduts) to show me?
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