morbid
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"Assumption is the Mother of all f**kups.."
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Post by morbid on Mar 12, 2009 14:03:17 GMT
Yes, I had plans, but I would have to look for them. These enclosures were built 10 years ago... Besides, they were built by a professional (manufacturer of porches). The material (profiled aluminium marks TECHNAL) is normally used to make shop windows and shop windows of store and I do not think that a private individual can easily make the same thing because are needed special tools. These enclosures measure 2, 40 m X 1, 20 m and make 1 m of height for the back part. Windows are 8 mm in thickness. And Thank you for the link towards Lexilogos ... Ok.. If you find them, would you please make copys for me? I know people that can make them here in Sweden, but the blueprints / plans are needed. They are one of the nicest looking outdoor-terrariums I have ever seen. You are welcome..
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Post by mark68 on Mar 12, 2009 19:43:18 GMT
Hello Mark, I understood your answer for T.tangitanus... In winter, in my region, the temperatures can fall at certain nights (but rarely) in - 5 /-6°C but the day if the sun shines, they can go back up(raise ?) rather high. For example on December 23rd, my Sceloporus jarrovii, in one of the aluminum glazed enclosures, were active. The temperature in the enclosure was of 21°C at 13h00. In my garden, I have for several years, palm trees Butia capitata, Agaves américana, Opuntias ficus-indica and Opuntias basilaris brought back by New Mexico who grow in full ground, unprotected wintry. I keep during of numerous years in my glazed aluminum enclosures T.lepidus. The winter they took shielded from the cold with dens which they dug. I stopped because they became again wild and very territorial. In the slightest alert they took refuge in their den. I never saw them, I could not get back the young people who were eaten by the parents. With the experience, I am convinced that big enclosures are not good to manage (correctly ?) and reproduce this very wild sort. Now I raise this sort in my small wooden enclosures and I am totally satisfied by the result. Sorry i haven't taken any pictures of my pater or tangitanus yet but I will soon, and post them here. I keep mine in enclosures a little larger 3 metres x 3 metres, or 3m x2 m, while babies are raised in enclosures 2m x2m I am in central Portugal where we have frosts down to -7c. We have alot of clear blue skies in winter so the temperature often is around 12c in the day dropping to -2c at night. We also have Opuntia ficus-indica which fruit well as well as Agave americana. I keep my Timon outdoors all winter with no glass or plastic cover. But I make sure they can get underground away from the frosts. I cover the hide box with dead fern leaves (bracken). The hide box is designed so it does not get wet, but just stays damp. They hibernate there with Laudakia stellio brachydactyla and similiar species. Both species breed well too ! Timon pater and tangitanus seem to need the same conditions as lepidus. I can't see any differences in how I keep them.
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Post by mark68 on Mar 12, 2009 19:45:01 GMT
I forgot to say I thought lepidus were illegal to keep in France ? They are in Portugal so I cannot keep them.
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Post by Nico on Mar 12, 2009 21:05:15 GMT
Thank you Mark for this precisions. In France, only T. lepidus been born in captivity and sold with certificate is legal. The animals of wild origin are illegal. Most of the animals come from German breeders.
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