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Post by Killian on May 23, 2005 11:40:05 GMT
I have managed to sourse some padarcis, would they do best in an open topped enclosure with natual UV light or in the warmth of my greenhouse?
how many should I get to start with? recomend a sex ratio and any other tips on keeping them would be most welcome
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colin
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Post by colin on May 23, 2005 18:34:35 GMT
Hello Killian,
I have kept P. muralis and P. sicula outdoors,however,I am in the south of England.
What species do you intend to keep?This will affect how you keep them both in terms of warmth and sex ratio.
I kept both species in a converted cold frame[at different times] .The top of the frame was mesh and when the weather became inclement I put the glass on.Incidentally the sides were all glassand the size was approximately 3 foot by 2 foot[sorry old measurements here]
I kept1.3 P. sicula and 2.4P.muralis.I had to take out the second male sicula as they were fighting.
I would try to give as much unfiltered sunlight as is possible as this is obviously better for the D3 and calcium.The biggest problem I found was trying to find the eggs as I had too many good laying places.
Finally to state the obvoius they are called wall lizards and are very adept at escaping.Should have mentioned that they become wild and therefore very wary much more than in a vivarium so dont expect to see more than a fleeing tail!!
Good luck Colin
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Post by Killian on May 25, 2005 12:39:45 GMT
I have ordered two pairs, I am not sure what species but I think they are muralis. I am putting one pair in a 6 foot by 6 foot enclosure with some bombina variegata and the other in my greenhouse. I will remove some panels of glass and replace them with fine mesh.
How do they get along with amphibians? What way did you find best to feed them?
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Post by colin on May 25, 2005 19:52:31 GMT
Hello Killian,
I am not sure about the Bombina,as you are aware they are very aquatic.If you have plenty of dryish areas with rocks for the lizards to bask I would not think it is a problem.
With regards to the food I fed mine mainly crickets plus anything that managed to get into the vivarium.Be careful as crickets can escape and be a pest in the summer and you would need to introduce quite a few as there will be plenty hiding and escaping.You could use field sweepings if you have enough time and I used to catch grasshoppers.These dont really seem to be a pest but are only available for a few months.
The size of enclosure is nice and large but I dont think you will see your lizards much.If you can obtain more you likely to see them.
If you email me your home address I will send you some interesting articles[ I do not have a scanner].
Colin
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Post by Killian on May 28, 2005 1:42:23 GMT
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Post by colin on May 28, 2005 7:43:08 GMT
Hello Killian,
Oh dear, to my mind that is a spiny footed lizard [Acanthylodactylus] which has been imported from Egypt.
For this reason I would not keep outside eiher a greenhouse or in a vivarium.
I cannot help with the species, but to sex look at the underneath of the back legs.Males will have defined femoral pores and females will not.Post a picture and I will try.
Colin
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Post by Killian on May 28, 2005 12:48:48 GMT
he came in with a shipment of animals I got and to be honest he is so reliant on the heat pad I had a suspision he would be no good for outside!! I think you are right he is a spiny footed lizard. I will have to get on to my supplier!! he was only €9 so no harm done.
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Post by adamanuran on May 30, 2005 19:52:20 GMT
Acanthodactylus erythurus i think, i have kept them outside before in unheated coldframe, you need to do it gradually though, similar proccess to hardening off plants!
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Post by Killian on May 30, 2005 21:12:21 GMT
too late, I rehomed it today. I will wait to get podarcis. thanks anyway
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