triturus marmoratus

[phil]

hi guys, i'm new to this forum. i have kept newts and salamanders for several years, but have only recently begun to think about breeding them. what sparked my enthusiasm for this was finding 27 larval fire salamanders in my outdoor enclosure and realising only then that i had a breeding pair. i also have a male marbled newt, which was happily living with the salamanders up untill the recent frosty spell when i decided to bring him into the conservatory in a 50/50 aquaterarrium. he has begun to take on his breeding dress so i decided to purchase a female. however, coming from a pet shop, its unlikely that she has had any kind of winter cooling. what are the chances of a successfull mating. and if not , would it be wise to cool them together, or could this harm the male

[phil]

by the way , if anyone has any cb 2005 european newts left for sale could you let me know
thanks phil

[Killian]

Hi Phil,

Welcome to the board, well done on breeding your fire salamanders. I think Adam may have some cb newts for sale. have a look at his site www.freewebs.com/adamanuran

or Andrew (pollywog) may have some also have a look in the for sale section of the forum. www.pollywog.co.uk

have you any pics of your fire salamanders enclosure?

[adamanuran]

Thats right, i have plenty of newts for sale at present. If i were you, i would throw the female in the fridge for 6 weeks should bring her in.

[phil]

good idea. however would my male stay in breeding condition untill the female was cycled. also could you let me know what newts you have available. my son alex is after a male cynops orientalis, and i'm after anything i havent got preferably captive bred young

[adamanuran]

The male should probably stay in condition for months, mine have come into condition now, shall start breeding in february and then lose crest etc around august time.
I have a list of available species on my website, www.freewebs.com/adamanuran
hope this helps. Regarding cynops, i only keep european species but i do have a rather large paramesotriton available.

[phil]

thanks for that adam. i would certainly be interested in carnifex and karellini

[phil]

would it be wise to put the male in cooling with the female even though he has already been cooled outside since october

[adamanuran]

I wouldn't do it as i don't like to take unnecessary risks. I shall have some juvenile karelinii available in a short time. The karelinii i have left are outdoor raised thus are much smaller than the ones i have sold previously, they are about 4cms but eat almost anything!

[willj]

i think pollywog has some cynops orientalis £6 each if i remember rightly

http//www.pollywog.co.uk/livestock

[phil]

my son alex(althepalme) purchased a pair of alpestris alpestris today and a male cynops . the male alpestris is very thin and weak, but it ate some bloodworm as soon as we got it home. i don't think the guy in the pet shop had fed them for a while, but the female seems big and healthy though. i'll get him to post some pictures soon.