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Post by viridis on Mar 13, 2012 18:55:41 GMT
Having seen these at Hamm and heard that they are hardy.Does anyone here keep them in greenhouses outddoors?For those that dont know they are Bradypodion sp and originate from South Africa.
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Post by Alex on Mar 19, 2012 22:47:15 GMT
This is certainly possible, though I've not constructed anything to support the montane species year round. 2 years ago I kept and bred Chamaeleo rudis outside for all but the harshest periods of the year. Nowadays, of the montane species, I just keep the fantastic species that is Chamaeleo quadricornis. They will be going outside shortly. I have overwintered them in my bathroom which is a ropey old extension and gets down to near zero temperatures during the winter. This suits them fine, and I even noticed them mating a couple of weeks ago or so. I'm guessing the species you're referring to is Bradypodian thamnobates? Would also be an excellent candidate for outdoor vivaria in my opinion.
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Post by viridis on Mar 19, 2012 23:10:23 GMT
Hi Alex,
Yes I was thinking of Bradypodion.I saw some at a friends house last week,they were remarkable little things.I know of one other keeper on here but wanted to see if anyone else kept them outdoors.Apparently Bert Langerwerf used to in Holland. I am just trying to get some information before I dip my toe in the water so to speak.
Were the quadriocornis the species that Russel had for sale at Portsmouth?I have recently delved into chameleons with some Jacksons,thses will be going outside in the summer.
I need to pick your brains as I have recently got some Phyllomedusa,I will contact you elsewhere.
Regards Colin
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Post by Alex on Mar 19, 2012 23:38:40 GMT
Hi Colin, Didn't realise it was you mate  . I have an excellent article from Bert Langerwerf on Bradypodian and keeping them in outdoor vivaria that was published in the BHS bulletin some 20 years ago - will have to dig it out and send it your way (if you don't have it already ). Re Quads - Yep I got them from Russ, they were not 'CB' in the traditional sense as I'd expected but I after a tricky month or so acclimatising them they've, touch wood, sorted themselves out. I do wonder how many people who picked some of these up that are not as fortunate enough as myself to have experience in acclimatising wild chameleons, failed dismally  - I could have qquite easily lost these and I had the pick of the bunch so to speak. They're doing very well now and all being well I will have some eggs before long - she is slowly getting plumper. You're lucky to have the jacksonii, I'm surprised more people do not bring these back from Hamm etc, they're fantastic as you know and are in demand over here. Good luck with breeding them. Re Phyllomedusa - feel free to ask any questions, they're a delight to maintain and I look forward to getting some more in time. Hope you're well, Al |
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Post by mark68 on Mar 20, 2012 19:29:42 GMT
Hi Alex, Yes I was thinking of Bradypodion.I saw some at a friends house last week,they were remarkable little things.I know of one other keeper on here but wanted to see if anyone else kept them outdoors. Apparently Bert Langerwerf used to in Holland. I am just trying to get some information before I dip my toe in the water so to speak. Were the quadriocornis the species that Russel had for sale at Portsmouth?I have recently delved into chameleons with some Jacksons,thses will be going outside in the summer. I need to pick your brains as I have recently got some Phyllomedusa,I will contact you elsewhere. Regards Colin Bert never had thamnobates in Holland. He didn't get them until he had already moved to the US. You need to speak to Rob P. He is as far as I know by far the best person in the UK with experience of this species. Mine are outdoors now in mesh cages with night temps down to around 5c. I had Jacksoni in London down very close to freezing without probs. |
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Post by mark68 on Mar 20, 2012 19:31:10 GMT
Forgot to say that BHS article is very good, but some of the climate data in the article according to Langerwerf was wrong.
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Post by Alex on Mar 21, 2012 0:21:55 GMT
Hello Mark - long time no speak, hope you're well mate?! - I believe the article that I have about thamnobates is about his success with this species in Alabama, is that the one you're thinking of too?
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Post by viridis on Mar 21, 2012 1:21:54 GMT
Thanks Mark, I have spoken to Rob but I was trying to see if anyone else kept them.It seems that no one really does.They are quite common in Germany and Holland though.It would be nice ro hear from others with experience.
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Post by mark68 on Mar 21, 2012 15:02:57 GMT
Hi Alex. I am well thanks. Just very busy as always !
The article was in BHS bulletin Autumn 1992. Its the temp info in the section labelled a to i that is incorrect.
Viridis are you Colin M ? If so Hi !! I would certainly listen carefully to Rob P. I still am very much still learning about B. thamnobates. I have only been keeping them since December, but Rob has many years of experience. Plus he has spoken to plenty of good South African contacts who have helped him understand about the natural history of this species.
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Post by viridis on Mar 21, 2012 15:46:20 GMT
Hi Mark ,its me.I couldnt log in under my name for some reason so I am here under a pseudonym which I dont really like as no one ever knows who they are talking to.
I am seeing Rob soon so can question him,I certainly wasn`t dismissing him but its strange that they are not more widely kept.
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. I have an excellent article from Bert Langerwerf on Bradypodian and keeping them in outdoor vivaria that was published in the BHS bulletin some 20 years ago - will have to dig it out and send it your way (if you don't have it already 
- I could have qquite easily lost these and I had the pick of the bunch so to speak. They're doing very well now and all being well I will have some eggs before long - she is slowly getting plumper. You're lucky to have the jacksonii, I'm surprised more people do not bring these back from Hamm etc, they're fantastic as you know and are in demand over here. Good luck with breeding them.